jusdeadphunky
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| TrespassersW wrote: | | jusdeadphunky wrote: | | Quote: | | I assume you can cite a source that supports this claim? Here's a good outline of the events as I understand them... |
yes...i just tried to do a quick check and there is nothing that i found that specifically details what the israelis did. i took a course called terrorism and counter-terrorism and my text book cited this occurrence as well as two documentaries we were shown. it was stressed that israel was the first to use terrorism. i never had heard of this until then and i can assure you that my teacher was a right winged GOP guy who threatened to kick me out of his class for talking about the conflict that was going on in lebanon at the time.
i will get back to as soon as i remember where i stored my book.
it is in this book:
http://product.half.ebay.com/T.....rZ45871771 |
I did some more digging and found this link:
http://www.representativepress.....story.html
It offers information that backs up your statements, but I have no way to judge whether the statements made there or by the sources it cites are true. It does at least lend credence to your belief that these facts are true, and forces me to consider the real possibility that my understanding of the beginnings of this conflict are flawed and incomplete.
If this information is true, it certainly seems that we should not have supported Israel at that time and under those circumstances. Unfortunately, our government tends too often to take the side that suits our needs rather than taking the morally correct stance. (This is why I would prefer a US foreign policy that left other nations' affairs to those nations.)
THANKS for an interesting and useful discussion! |
you know i never sell back my school books but as soon as i go to look something up in them, i can not find them.
i hear you about our government sticking their noses where they don't belong...
my main problem with israel is that the u.s. unconditionally funds them ($3.2 billion a year in cash, not including loans that are given and then forgiven). if it were not for u.s. funds, israel would not be able to be the oppressive bully that they are.
i read some of the link that raibeart posted and it rings a bell. what i specifically remember is that the zionists attacked a palestinian village and burned it (like the whole thing), which led to the palestinian refugee crisis and initiated the violence that has continued for the past 60 years. |
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Lester
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| exton wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | exton wrote: | | Glass parking lot |
We could pave paradise to make it!! |
No no, that's a concrete parking lot. You make glass parking lots by using nuclear weapons (the heat is so intense that sand and soil get melted into glass). |
Well, I have no proficiency with these things, but I'm sure there are plenty of other underage boys out there who would just love to bomb themselves some aylkyeduh. |
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thelast007
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i have the solution.
3 words
 "palm tree island"
off the coast of dubai
build land in the middle of the ocean like palm tree island off the coast of dubai |
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Xerxes
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thelast007 wrote: | i have the solution.
3 words
"palm tree island"
off the coast of dubai
build land in the middle of the ocean like palm tree island off the coast of dubai |
Have you seen that? Isn't that cool? I can only imagine what real estate costs there. |
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thelast007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| things were actually reasonable pre construction years ago. 250k for a very small studio. now the cost are like buying a piece of heaven. |
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Xerxes
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| thelast007 wrote: | | things were actually reasonable pre construction years ago. 250k for a very small studio. now the cost are like buying a piece of heaven. |
Michael Jackson moved there. I guess it's "Never Never Land" (East) |
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Lester
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| thelast007 wrote: | i have the solution.
3 words
"palm tree island"
off the coast of dubai
build land in the middle of the ocean like palm tree island off the coast of dubai |
That was so my idea!! I had it when I was eight!! |
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thelast007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: |
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8! ha! slow learner. those were my 1st 3 words palm tree island
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Lester
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Thats a lie. A big fat dirty lie. |
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thelast007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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i'm telling  . you said a bad word. lie is a bad word Lester.  |
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Lester
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, I thought you meant fat. |
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zak1716
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| we really don't need to do anything, the israelis can handle themselves...all the us needs to do is worry about itself, let everyone else go to hell. |
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fellfire
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| zak1716 wrote: | | we really don't need to do anything, the israelis can handle themselves...all the us needs to do is worry about itself, let everyone else go to hell. |
Therein lies the rub ... the israelis don't handle it by themselves since they get $3+ billion in grants from the US. So your statement above would be more accurately rephrased as:
"we really don't need to do anything but keep handing the israelis money, the israelis can handle themselves ... all the us needs to do is worry about itself and keep the cash flowing, let everyone else go to hell." |
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little lai
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| fellfire wrote: | | zak1716 wrote: | | we really don't need to do anything, the israelis can handle themselves...all the us needs to do is worry about itself, let everyone else go to hell. |
Therein lies the rub ... the israelis don't handle it by themselves since they get $3+ billion in grants from the US. So your statement above would be more accurately rephrased as:
"we really don't need to do anything but keep handing the israelis money, the israelis can handle themselves ... all the us needs to do is worry about itself and keep the cash flowing, let everyone else go to hell." |
we give a lot of people money to help them handle themselves |
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Lester
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| zak1716 wrote: | | we really don't need to do anything, the israelis can handle themselves...all the us needs to do is worry about itself, let everyone else go to hell. |
Welcome to LVC! |
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