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chevydriver1123
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 Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Turkish Military Chief Warns of Threat to Secularism |
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Good read. Its funny how we celebrate these types of people over in Turkey but if some General in the US said this about our own country he would be called some flaming, godless, homosexual loving liberal.
http://www.voanews.com/english.....-voa48.cfm |
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Anym
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| I think this is proof that secularism breeds democracy and Religion breeds Theocracy |
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Cookie Parker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Anym wrote: | | I think this is proof that secularism breeds democracy and Religion breeds Theocracy |
Secularism casts aside the notions that curiosity, reasoning and thinking skills, critical thinking and questioning are evil and bad.
Religion forbids these processes, preferring a nation into which ideas can be poured into the heads and minds of its little skeered followers, IMHO. |
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Lester
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Yum. Turkey.
I like it with swiss cheese on a roll. |
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fellfire
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Anym wrote: | | I think this is proof that secularism breeds democracy and Religion breeds Theocracy |
I generally agree, Anym, but I'm not sure I would hold up Turkey as a bastion of democracy. The turkish military is talking about "upholding secularism and democracy" with the business end of a gun. |
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chevydriver1123
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| fellfire wrote: | | Anym wrote: | | I think this is proof that secularism breeds democracy and Religion breeds Theocracy |
I generally agree, Anym, but I'm not sure I would hold up Turkey as a bastion of democracy. The turkish military is talking about "upholding secularism and democracy" with the business end of a gun. |
When you compare it to the other Muslim countries I would say it is a pretty good bastion. |
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fellfire
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| chevydriver1123 wrote: | | fellfire wrote: | | Anym wrote: | | I think this is proof that secularism breeds democracy and Religion breeds Theocracy |
I generally agree, Anym, but I'm not sure I would hold up Turkey as a bastion of democracy. The turkish military is talking about "upholding secularism and democracy" with the business end of a gun. |
When you compare it to the other Muslim countries I would say it is a pretty good bastion. |
I can't disagree with you, Chevy, by comparison, it is a mecca of freedoms. |
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