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JLV Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: The USA has lost it's main product, morality. |
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Now that it lost its moral standing how long do you think it can contain its image?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....ptionalism
The basis most commonly cited for American exceptionalism is the idea that the United States and its people hold a special place in the world, by offering opportunity and hope for humanity, derived from a unique balance of public and private interests governed by constitutional ideals that are focused on personal and economic freedom. It is therefore used by United States citizens to indicate a moral superiority of America or Americans. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Pfft, the united states never had moral superiority. |
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chevydriver1123 Veteran

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Morality is subjective and varies by the person. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| I find it hard to think of a realistic scheme of morals wherein the united states has had a moral high ground. |
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John_Quincy Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: Moral Standing and Image... |
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| The Image of the Moral Standing of America can be compared to an Iron Statue with Hardwood legs inwhich it's feet are infested with termites; the vermin of a society and the Moral Decay of a Strong Standing Nation. We either need some good legs braces to be installed real soon, or some form of crutches placed under the arms of this soon to crumble Idol of a degenerating society. What type of support do we need to save this Image? |
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joeyjock Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if "morality" is the right term
we have been seen before as a country that believed in freedom, in truth
and a country that was willing to lend a helping hand
....by many not all in the world but by some
THAT.... has been all washed away by this criminal crew
and for good reason...it'll be decades before we can clean up the mess they made |
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John_Quincy Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: The Above |
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| Yea, perhaps right but whatever we should term it, it seems that it's becoming overdue for some type of restructure or reinforcement. |
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joeyjock Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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The only way is to get the criminals and their henchmen out of gov't
we cannot have a republican back in that White House right now
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if you vote for John McSame we are going to get the same policies to haunt us for the next four years
the same Iraq policy
the same Iran policy
the same economic policy...
we can't afford it...we are teetering on disaster as it is |
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Patriot66 Not a Newbie

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| joeyjock wrote: | The only way is to get the criminals and their henchmen out of gov't
we cannot have a republican back in that White House right now
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if you vote for John McSame we are going to get the same policies to haunt us for the next four years
the same Iraq policy
the same Iran policy
the same economic policy...
we can't afford it...we are teetering on disaster as it is |
Or a Clinton! |
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joeyjock Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Are you KIDDING me?
were you not living in America in the 90's?
when we had no made up wars
when we had an excellent economy
when we had relative domestic calm
when our worst fears were that the President was Gettin some in the White House
Now it's friggin'WWIII out there
the dollar's tankin'
we're bailin' out investing houses so we don't go into a depression
the price of gasoline is eating of every last dollar we have
and the medical insurance mess is eating up every last cent
I'll take Bill or Hillary back ANY day |
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cornopean Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: The USA has lost it's main product, morality. |
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| JLV wrote: | Now that it lost its moral standing how long do you think it can contain its image?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....ptionalism
The basis most commonly cited for American exceptionalism is the idea that the United States and its people hold a special place in the world, by offering opportunity and hope for humanity, derived from a unique balance of public and private interests governed by constitutional ideals that are focused on personal and economic freedom. It is therefore used by United States citizens to indicate a moral superiority of America or Americans. |
I deny that US has lost its moral standing.
It will lose its moral standing if the dems get their way and we chop up all our free trade deals. |
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Toxic Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Good fucking premises behind that argument, bud. |
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Patriot66 Not a Newbie

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| joeyjock wrote: | Are you KIDDING me?
were you not living in America in the 90's?
when we had no made up wars
when we had an excellent economy
when we had relative domestic calm
when our worst fears were that the President was Gettin some in the White House
Now it's friggin'WWIII out there
the dollar's tankin'
we're bailin' out investing houses so we don't go into a depression
the price of gasoline is eating of every last dollar we have
and the medical insurance mess is eating up every last cent
I'll take Bill or Hillary back ANY day |
Oh, excuse me. I thought we were talking about Morals. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| Patriot66 wrote: |
Oh, excuse me. I thought we were talking about Morals. |
Joey said
"if you vote for John McSame we are going to get the same policies to haunt us for the next four years"
Frankly, bill's blowjob hasn't been haunting me at all. It's not the sort of moral travesty that makes me lose sleep. |
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John_Quincy Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: Bush, Crime, Moral Image, ete |
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| I'll tell you that I'm a conservative of sorts but I'm afraid a name, like McCain, is going to yeild the same. Man I swear after getting an earful the Fucking Alfred E. Newman lookalike we call the Pres., I was simply disgusted. He somewhat said,"Our Econemy's been in shambles before, trust me, we'll get through it. Yeah, ah barrel of Awloil at a historic high. Don't blame me for it. It's the Law of Supply and Demand. China demanding more Awloil for it's 2 billion (not million) inhabitants. Hey we got careless in not using our reserves in a proper fashion. Shit like this's bound ta happen since I ain't in Texas naamore. Real Estate plunder, hey the finance companies used poor judgement in long term investing that caused a handful of My Fella Americans ta lose their houses and spouses but hey, this soon shall pass too. People who 'shook my hand at first and are getting the hell shaken out of their confidence by me', will be happy to know that I got their measly Rebate Checks in the Mail and then and only then is all this Texas Bullbutter gonna be behind us all, we all you all. So don't go yank'n out out all your worthless dollars from those investment firms and such, cause their ain't nutt'n to really worry about while I'm still in this WhiteHouse. Hey rest assure we're gonna see this soon go away. Remember that alot of this mess I inherited, God Bless Ya AWll. John Quincy |
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