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Toxic
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| Quote: | | and if our system is falling apart, why do people come here for health care? |
This same argument has been had in another thread. Why do you continue to post information/create questions based on things you've already been smacked down on? |
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fellfire
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Toxic wrote: | | Quote: | | and if our system is falling apart, why do people come here for health care? |
This same argument has been had in another thread. Why do you continue to post information/create questions based on things you've already been smacked down on? |
It is a classic cons ploy: keep asking the same question while ignoring all answers to it, then you can claim that no one was able to answer your question. |
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cornopean
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| fellfire wrote: | | Toxic wrote: | | Quote: | | and if our system is falling apart, why do people come here for health care? |
This same argument has been had in another thread. Why do you continue to post information/create questions based on things you've already been smacked down on? |
It is a classic cons ploy: keep asking the same question while ignoring all answers to it, then you can claim that no one was able to answer your question. |
well I gave a link. it's a well documented phenomenon.
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/253664
even the health minister went to the US for treatment.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti.....4/20070914 |
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shankarsingam
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| cornopean wrote: | | shankarsingam wrote: | | England has had government health since world war 2. Thats over 60 years and its still working providing health to all its citizens. |
these things are so childishly easy to refute. Here is the BBC:
The poll of 1,000 people, by TNS on behalf of Norwich Union Healthcare, showed most expect to wait five months for a hip operation.
Most wait nearer 11 months, independent medical researchers Dr Fosters said.
Patients also had unrealistic expectations for other operations and many said they did not know where to go to find out waiting times.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3749801.stm
what really does "access to health care" mean if you got to wait 11 months?
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Ours is just over 30 and is already falling apart, leaving 40 million citizens not covered.
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what if many of those 40 mill don't want insurance for whatever reason?
and if our system is falling apart, why do people come here for health care? |
Rich people maybe come here for health.
But regular People dont come here for healthcare, they go to other countries. And thats a fact.
Who is your insurance covered by Corn? |
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Toxic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| cornopean wrote: | | fellfire wrote: | | Toxic wrote: | | Quote: | | and if our system is falling apart, why do people come here for health care? |
This same argument has been had in another thread. Why do you continue to post information/create questions based on things you've already been smacked down on? |
It is a classic cons ploy: keep asking the same question while ignoring all answers to it, then you can claim that no one was able to answer your question. |
well I gave a link. it's a well documented phenomenon.
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/253664
even the health minister went to the US for treatment.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti.....4/20070914 |
Yes, yes. We've been over this. Which is what I was freakin' talking about. Someone else posted documented occurrences of Americans going to Canada for healthcare. It works both ways, you know that it works both ways, but you ignore one of them to keep making your same retarded point. |
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dudieezper
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| First, sorry about your wife man, it would really be a nice thing for you and your wife that it is not really serious. Anyway, you might just have to avail a free medical benefit card, it is something like that, I'm not so sure about the term, they used to it. It is just a card that you might have a discount and even free to a medical hospital. |
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shankarsingam
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Thank you dudieezpr. Its been quite some time since ive posted on this forum, wonder if anyone is still around.
In any case, i have a new health care story far more horrifying and probably happening to 1000's of americans nationwide.
This issue has kept my wife and i up at nights wondering in helplessness how if at all we can change the bleakness of our future.
Since 2008, i have lost my healthcare coverage from my employer, meaning my wife has also lost her healthcare. 2009 after receiving her Masters degree, we decide(as planned for some years)to have a baby. So we call our friend who is an agent for Blue Cross/Sheild to get my wife coverage. After filling out the application, and submitting it we were informed 2 months later that she was denied due to a pre-existing condition. We were baffled. I asked our "friend" well we ll just submit another application to another HIP, he then informed us that the top 10 companies all use the same database and that we would be denied by all of them.
What was the pre-existing condition you ask?
It was a leep paid for by blue cross in 2004.
We can afford to have a baby on insurance, but not be able to have a baby without.
Due to profit margins these companies are denying basic human rights to americans. Denying my wife and I a family. These bastards need to rot in deepest shit-hole of hell.
We checked some other options, but our income is too high and we dont qualify.
I ve decided to take the $30,000(it would only cost $3 - $5000 if i had insurance) hit and have a baby with out insurance.
I support Obama's health reform bills especially making it illegal to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. i hope you do too. |
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