Turk
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 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Ron Paul is the only qualified conservative candidate |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....om/?p=1026
Reasons why we must not support mccain are in this link
The fox news pundits sound worried about the up coming election year
It may be too big for them to fix this election |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:32 am Post subject: |
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I love Ron Paul, but he has no chance at winning.
Don't be foolish and waste your vote. I'm voting for McCain because I believe he is by far the least evil of the main candidates. |
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Turk
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Youre wasting your vote by voting for the status quo |
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chevydriver1123
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Wayne Allen Root 08 |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Turk wrote: | | Youre wasting your vote by voting for the status quo |
Obama and McCain have many differences. You're wasting your vote by not voting for whichever one you think is less evil. |
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Turk
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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that is a complete falsehood
none of them have real solutions to problems
more big government more war less rights |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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I respect your idealism, but try to be practical for a second.
If the candidates are Obama and McCain, clearly one of them is going to win. Why not vote for the one you think is better?
I value economic freedom so plan on voting for McCain. |
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chevydriver1123
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| capitalist wrote: | | Turk wrote: | | Youre wasting your vote by voting for the status quo |
Obama and McCain have many differences. You're wasting your vote by not voting for whichever one you think is less evil. |
The lesser evil argument fails. Im voting third party, neither Chairman Obama or McAmnesty will get my vote. |
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Toxic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Principal or pragmatism. Which will win? |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| chevydriver1123 wrote: |
The lesser evil argument fails. Im voting third party, neither Chairman Obama or McAmnesty will get my vote. |
You criticize McCain for being pro-Amnesty -- but what will you say when Obama is president? Surely he is no better in the Amnesty department.
Unfortunately, voting third party is essentially equal to not voting at all. |
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chevydriver1123
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Toxic wrote: | | Principal or pragmatism. Which will win? |
Principal has already won in my mind. |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry guys, but that's just a bad way to think about it.
If Obama wins the presidency, will you be happy that you were "principled" and didn't vote for McCain? |
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chevydriver1123
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| capitalist wrote: | I'm sorry guys, but that's just a bad way to think about it.
If Obama wins the presidency, will you be happy that you were "principled" and didn't vote for McCain? |
Well maybe a hard defeat is what the Republican leadership needs in order to get is act together. The 06 defeat taught nothing obviously. |
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fellfire
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| capitalist wrote: | I'm sorry guys, but that's just a bad way to think about it.
If Obama wins the presidency, will you be happy that you were "principled" and didn't vote for McCain? |
Well, Bush won the presidency and I didn't vote for him. I was happy that I was principled and voted for the candidate of my choosing. |
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capitalist
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| fellfire wrote: |
Well, Bush won the presidency and I didn't vote for him. I was happy that I was principled and voted for the candidate of my choosing. |
Did you vote democrat or some third party?
My point is that it is a waste of a vote to vote for someone who has absolutely zero chance at winning (aka a third party candidate).
You would do better to vote for whoever you believe the least "bad" candidate is. |
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