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[quote="Lester"][color=orange]Sorry bout that, it took me ages to find the link and then I got called away, anyways, here it is. [url]http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/wp.php[/url] The Electronic Frontier Foundation are highly reputable, plus there are more links down the bottom, and it's not an ID no. like I said it's more a series of dots type thing done in very light yellow ink.[/color][/quote]
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<style type="text/css"> <!-- td.forumtitle { background-color: #669900; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 10px; font-family: sans-serif; } table.forumborder { border: solid; border-width: 1px; border-color: #555555; } td.mnu { background-color: #BFBFBF; height: 1px; } --> </style> <table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumborder"> <tr> <td class="forumtitle" width="22%">Author</th> <td class="forumtitle">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lester</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Xerxes wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Lester wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Who the fuck says turd burgalar?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br />That would be me</span> <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Weird.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jusdeadphunky</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:37 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>exton wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> i would drive if the american manufacturers where smart enough to make a car with all wheel drive.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Like this one? <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.cars.com/go/features/autoshows/vehicle.jsp?vehicletype=production&autoshowyear=2007&vehicle=production_saturn_vue&make=Saturn&model=Vue" target="_blank">http://www.cars.com/go/feature.....;model=Vue</a> <br /> <br />American manufacturers actually make a lot of vehicles with AWD.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />i know but aside from SUVs, this is a recent development. <br /> <br />cadillac with the inception of its newest model STS, crysler with the 300C, there is either a ford fusion or the mercury equivalent now with AWD. <br /> <br />i hate driving in the snow and at this juncture in my life i have no business buying a $25k car and i can not afford the gas in an SUV because i average between 25k and 30k miles a year, so i drive a subaru with AWD that gets on average 27 mpg.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>exton</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> i would drive if the american manufacturers where smart enough to make a car with all wheel drive.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Like this one? <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.cars.com/go/features/autoshows/vehicle.jsp?vehicletype=production&autoshowyear=2007&vehicle=production_saturn_vue&make=Saturn&model=Vue" target="_blank">http://www.cars.com/go/feature.....;model=Vue</a> <br /> <br />American manufacturers actually make a lot of vehicles with AWD.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Xerxes</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Xerxes wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">saturn is american.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">I might be wrong...I thought that Saturn's parent company was Japanese? Y/N?</span> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">and why should anyone buy american, when the cars don't hold up as well as those from japan and the resale value is shit compared to honda and toyota?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br />And unfortunately I can not give you a rebuttal because we have not built a good car since the late 70's. I thought about that as soon as I was through typing, and just had to laugh at my piece of shit Ranger sitting out front.</span></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />saturn is owned by GM and its claim to fame was that is was manufactured in tennessee...but i am sure they are now made in mexico. <br /> <br />i hop into my subaru everyday and look at all the other cars on the road that i would drive if the american manufacturers where smart enough to make a car with all wheel drive.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <img src="images/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jusdeadphunky</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Xerxes wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">saturn is american.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">I might be wrong...I thought that Saturn's parent company was Japanese? Y/N?</span> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">and why should anyone buy american, when the cars don't hold up as well as those from japan and the resale value is shit compared to honda and toyota?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br />And unfortunately I can not give you a rebuttal because we have not built a good car since the late 70's. I thought about that as soon as I was through typing, and just had to laugh at my piece of shit Ranger sitting out front.</span></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />saturn is owned by GM and its claim to fame was that is was manufactured in tennessee...but i am sure they are now made in mexico. <br /> <br />i hop into my subaru everyday and look at all the other cars on the road that i would drive if the american manufacturers where smart enough to make a car with all wheel drive.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Xerxes</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">saturn is american.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">I might be wrong...I thought that Saturn's parent company was Japanese? Y/N?</span> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jusdeadphunky wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">and why should anyone buy american, when the cars don't hold up as well as those from japan and the resale value is shit compared to honda and toyota?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br />And unfortunately I can not give you a rebuttal because we have not built a good car since the late 70's. I thought about that as soon as I was through typing, and just had to laugh at my piece of shit Ranger sitting out front.</span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jusdeadphunky</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Xerxes wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />P.S. I hate your Saturn too. Buy American.[/size]</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />saturn is american. <br /> <br />and why should anyone buy american, when the cars don't hold up as well as those from japan and the resale value is shit compared to honda and toyota?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Xerxes</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:27 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Lester wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Who the fuck says turd burgalar?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal"> <br />That would be me</span> <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lester</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:43 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Who the fuck says turd burgalar?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Xerxes</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Patriot wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I agree that we should have privacy. But really, I have nothing to hide. I couldnt give a rats ass if they overheard me talking about how much I hate my Saturn. Im not doing anything illegal.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">What if they are looking for people who use bad words or phrases? Words like <span style="font-style: italic">"Constitution"</span> or <span style="font-style: italic">"Habeus Corpus"</span> or just simple phrases like <span style="font-style: italic">"George Bush is secretly a turd burgular"</span>. Or ones like <span style="font-style: italic">"Dick Cheney should be tried for treason"</span>. I do know that the way the NSA has it set up is to record ALL the communication and troll for key words like these, including others. Do not watch what you say. Fuck them cocksuckers!! "They got the guns, but, we got the numbers". Not only are they watching us, we are now watching THEM. The American people sleep no more. We are hip to them! <br /> <br />P.S. I hate your Saturn too. Buy American.</span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jusdeadphunky</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LastLogicalPerson2004 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Well I got nothing to hide. Everybody is getting paranoid lol. <br /> <br /> <br />Anyways, yeah in the UK there are cameras on the sidewalks. Ooh the UK is spying on their citizens ooh. Uhh.. No.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />seriously...would you think about what you just said. you do <span style="font-style: italic">claim</span> to be logical.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lester</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:54 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Just because you've got nothing to hide doesn't mean you want them listening to you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LastLogicalPerson2004</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well I got nothing to hide. Everybody is getting paranoid lol. <br /> <br /> <br />Anyways, yeah in the UK there are cameras on the sidewalks. Ooh the UK is spying on their citizens ooh. Uhh.. No.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>G-Max</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OH NOES! TEH FBI IZ HEARIN' MY PIZZA ORDERS!!!11</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>7th Avenue Rebel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>corey michael wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I hear every phone has a GPS signal as well. Also, has anyone heard about the camera's in Britain. I read something yesterday talking about an experiment they were doing on about 7 of the public surveillance cameras. They are mounting speakers and barking down at people for violating minor laws and whatnots. Is that big brother or what?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">for some reason, that was on good morning america, and thats now in the u.s. with the camras at trafic lights and stuff taking pictures of you, they may not have the speakers but its the same idea, and the thing in the u.k. on good morning america it had like one pole with about 10 camras on it, and they said they are going to have it nation wide there or something</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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