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[quote="fellfire"][quote="TrespassersW"][quote="Turk"] COINTELPRO Is still very much alive today[/quote] Citation? Source? Evidence to support that statement? You may be right, but am I to simply take your word for it? If you think you know this, show us why you think you know it; let us decide for ourselves whether what you say is true.[/quote] Good luck with that Trespasser.[/quote]
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<style type="text/css"> <!-- td.forumtitle { background-color: #669900; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 10px; font-family: sans-serif; } table.forumborder { border: solid; border-width: 1px; border-color: #555555; } td.mnu { background-color: #BFBFBF; height: 1px; } --> </style> <table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumborder"> <tr> <td class="forumtitle" width="22%">Author</th> <td class="forumtitle">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk_9-Cpgcfs&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related</a> <br />Government Echelon <br />COINTEL PRO</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Toxic</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Since we're reliving this discussion, here's what I followed that with: <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Okay, that's some great info about the '50's and '60's. <span style="font-weight: bold">Where's your support for the claim that it's alive and well today?</span> <br /> <br />One citation? Just one????</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I've had to do that before. He makes a comment, I reply with an argument, he quotes himself without facing my argument, so I quote my argument. Silly Internets.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TrespassersW</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Since we're reliving this discussion, here's what I followed that with: <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Okay, that's some great info about the '50's and '60's. <span style="font-weight: bold">Where's your support for the claim that it's alive and well today?</span> <br /> <br />One citation? Just one????</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Toxic</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:13 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Stop bumping by quoting yourself. We saw it the first time.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEayXs9iLZQ <br />COINTELPRO was used in the 1950's to subvert the civil rights movement, there are claims that the fbi director j edgar hoover sent dr king a threatning letter claiming that he should commit sucide to save himself the grief of his affairs with other women, one week later he was assassinated, malcom x another, and medger evers, <br />there are allegations that the fbi were giving the kkk information and who to target out of the groups. <br /> <br />COINTELPRO was used in the 1960's to subvert peaceful protesters and spy on political rivals <br />Watergate anyone, <br />there were people in the FBI that were brought up on charges but they were all pardoned by gerald ford <br />how convenient <br /> <br />well here is some good archives if you want to read them <br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtGrWUIz92Y&feature=related" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtG.....re=related</a> <br />cointelpro <br />a covert op used by the fbi to subvert domestic dissidents</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TrespassersW</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>fellfire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Okay, that's some great info about the '50's and '60's. Where's your support for the claim that it's alive and well today? <br /> <br />One citation? Just one????</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Here <<hands over a pillow>> ... you may need this for your head, it softens the blows.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TrespassersW</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Okay, that's some great info about the '50's and '60's. Where's your support for the claim that it's alive and well today? <br /> <br />One citation? Just one????</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEayXs9iLZQ" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEayXs9iLZQ</a> <br />COINTELPRO was used in the 1950's to subvert the civil rights movement, there are claims that the fbi director j edgar hoover sent dr king a threatning letter claiming that he should commit sucide to save himself the grief of his affairs with other women, one week later he was assassinated, malcom x another, and medger evers, <br />there are allegations that the fbi were giving the kkk information and who to target out of the groups. <br /> <br />COINTELPRO was used in the 1960's to subvert peaceful protesters and spy on political rivals <br />Watergate anyone, <br />there were people in the FBI that were brought up on charges but they were all pardoned by gerald ford <br />how convenient <br /> <br />well here is some good archives if you want to read them <br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtGrWUIz92Y&feature=related" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtG.....re=related</a> <br />cointelpro <br />a covert op used by the fbi to subvert domestic dissidents</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: COINTELPRO a must see</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />COINTELPRO <br />Is still very much alive today</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Citation? Source? Evidence to support that statement? <br /> <br />You may be right, but am I to simply take your word for it? If you think you know this, show us why you think you know it; let us decide for ourselves whether what you say is true.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">Clinton slammed political rivals with IRS audits <br />and extra legal harassment <br />yes its very much alive today</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TrespassersW</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: COINTELPRO a must see</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>fellfire wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />COINTELPRO <br />Is still very much alive today</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Citation? Source? Evidence to support that statement? <br /> <br />You may be right, but am I to simply take your word for it? If you think you know this, show us why you think you know it; let us decide for ourselves whether what you say is true.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Good luck with that Trespasser.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />LOL <br /> <br />Yeah, I think I need to get a thicker forehead or find a softer brick wall to bang it against.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>fellfire</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:38 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: COINTELPRO a must see</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TrespassersW wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />COINTELPRO <br />Is still very much alive today</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Citation? Source? Evidence to support that statement? <br /> <br />You may be right, but am I to simply take your word for it? If you think you know this, show us why you think you know it; let us decide for ourselves whether what you say is true.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Good luck with that Trespasser.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TrespassersW</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:00 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: COINTELPRO a must see</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />COINTELPRO <br />Is still very much alive today</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Citation? Source? Evidence to support that statement? <br /> <br />You may be right, but am I to simply take your word for it? If you think you know this, show us why you think you know it; let us decide for ourselves whether what you say is true.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: COINTELPRO a must see</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Turk wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Or Counter Intellegence Program <br />mainly used by the FBI to target lawabiding citizens <br />this is a must see <br />looks like the Nixon days are still here and strong <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMsOGWN_ts&eurl=http://infowars.com/articles/ps/real_id_from_no_fly_lists_to_no_drive_lists.htm" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....._lists.htm</a> <br />COINTELPRO has been used by the government to target the civil rights movement, antiwar movement, peaceful protesters, political rivals watergate scandal richard nixon, <br />On and on</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />COINTELPRO <br />Is still very much alive today</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Turk</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Methods <br />According to Attorney Brian Glick in his book War at Home, the FBI used four main methods during COINTELPRO: <br /> <br />1. Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents. <br /> <br />2. Psychological Warfare From the Outside: The FBI and police used myriad other "dirty tricks" to undermine progressive movements. They planted false media stories and published bogus leaflets and other publications in the name of targeted groups. They forged correspondence, sent anonymous letters, and made anonymous telephone calls. They spread misinformation about meetings and events, set up pseudo movement groups run by government agents, and manipulated or strong-armed parents, employers, landlords, school officials and others to cause trouble for activists. <br /> <br />3. Harassment Through the Legal System: The FBI and police abused the legal system to harass dissidents and make them appear to be criminals. Officers of the law gave perjured testimony and presented fabricated evidence as a pretext for false arrests and wrongful imprisonment. They discriminatorily enforced tax laws and other government regulations and used conspicuous surveillance, "investigative" interviews, and grand jury subpoenas in an effort to intimidate activists and silence their supporters. <br /> <br />4. Extralegal Force and Violence: The FBI and police threatened, instigated, and themselves conducted break-ins, vandalism, assaults, and beatings. The object was to frighten dissidents and disrupt their movements. In the case of radical Black and Puerto Rican activists (and later Native Americans), these attacks—including political assassinations—were so extensive, vicious, and calculated that they can accurately be termed a form of official "terrorism." <br />The FBI also conducted "black bag jobs",[4] which were warrantless surreptitious entries, against the targeted groups and their members.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/alexisBlue/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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