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[quote="TrespassersW"][quote="Toxic"][quote]I completely understand not liking the idea of warrantless searches, but to complain about Bush writing this signing statement misses the point and really just shows how little the person complaining about it knows about this issue.[/quote]
You accuse me of not understanding the issue (though you admit you don't understand it either) and also accuse me of straw man arguments, which I haven't actually created. I'm pissed about the issue at hand and have pointed it out and voiced that fact. I demand responsibility from the people [i]responsible[/i]. What are you expecting me to say or argue, exactly?[/quote]
You're perfectly welcome to be pissed about the issue, it's just that your anger might be more meaningful to me if it were based on facts, not just your belief that this is Bush being bad. This signing statement appears to be a case of Bush acting in his capacity as chief executive and defending existing executive power against erosion by loosely worded legislation. The separation of powers only work when each branch defends its powers against encroachment by the other branches. The law being signed might have been construed to overturn this specific power of the executive branch, and it seems reasonable for Bush to state that the executive branch retains that power after this law goes into effect.

That you may not like that power really has nothing to do with this signing; the signing didn't create the power, neither did Bush. It appears that you did not know that, and now you do. So if you really want to know what [i]I'm expecting you to say or argue[/i], I'm expecting you to complain that warrantless searches are a bad idea, to explain why you think they are bad, to suggest what you think should happen to change that... anything but the same old tired, "Bush sucks... look what he did now!"

On the upside, if the court's decision to uphold this executive power was flawed when decided under Clinton, Bush's signing statement might draw enough attention to it to get a court to take another look and perhaps rule differently; after all, it's the courts that provide the checks and balances on the executive branch, not the legislature.[/quote]

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