Turk Forum Elder

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Modern day liberals in the US are closer to facists |
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http://amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_28/review.html
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning, Jonah Goldberg, Doubleday, 496 pages |
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Toxic Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Do you actually know any liberals? Or are you just lampooning Washington liberals?
And can you perhaps lay out some of the basic arguments/premises he makes in the book? |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| He doesn't even know what a "liberal" is, so i wouldn't get too worked up over him calling liberals fascists. |
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Turk Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Read the article |
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Toxic Forum Elder

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I did read the article. I can't figure out who it's talking about. Certainly not anything I've ever espoused. |
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Turk Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Toxic wrote: | | I did read the article. I can't figure out who it's talking about. Certainly not anything I've ever espoused. | Maybe the reading material was above your reading level no pun intended
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TrespassersW Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Goldberg has packed his book with caveats. “I do not believe liberals are evil, villainous or bigoted,” he writes. “I have not written a book about how all liberals are Nazis or fascists. … Liberals today are not responsible for what their forefathers believed.” |
Read that? The author states straight out that he's not writing about "modern day liberals," so pointing to this book as supporting any conclusion about "modern day liberals" seems ill-informed. |
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Anym Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| TrespassersW wrote: | | Quote: | | Goldberg has packed his book with caveats. “I do not believe liberals are evil, villainous or bigoted,” he writes. “I have not written a book about how all liberals are Nazis or fascists. … Liberals today are not responsible for what their forefathers believed.” |
Read that? The author states straight out that he's not writing about "modern day liberals," so pointing to this book as supporting any conclusion about "modern day liberals" seems ill-informed. |
Why else would he right the book? |
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TrespassersW Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Anym wrote: | | TrespassersW wrote: | | Quote: | | Goldberg has packed his book with caveats. “I do not believe liberals are evil, villainous or bigoted,” he writes. “I have not written a book about how all liberals are Nazis or fascists. … Liberals today are not responsible for what their forefathers believed.” |
Read that? The author states straight out that he's not writing about "modern day liberals," so pointing to this book as supporting any conclusion about "modern day liberals" seems ill-informed. |
Why else would he right the book? |
I have no idea why he wrote the book; I just know what he said above. |
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Toxic Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I am fascist. *grrr* |
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TrespassersW Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I find that most people who throw around terms like "fascist" and "nazi" have very little idea what those terms actually mean. |
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shankarsingam Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Jonah Goldberg is fool who made his name through the Lewinsky scandal(just like Coulter, Ingrahm and the rest)
He lost a 1000 dollar bet because in 2005 he stated "that Iraq won't have a civil war, that it will have a viable constitution, and that a majority of Iraqis and Americans will, in two years time, agree that the war was worth it."
This guy isn't the brightest bulb in the building. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| shankarsingam wrote: | | This guy isn't the brightest bulb in the building. |
Unfortunately, he is the brightest bulb of the bunch. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| This guy was on the daily show and Jon didn't agree with him. |
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chevydriver1123 Veteran

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | This guy was on the daily show and Jon didn't agree with him. |
It was a pretty nasty interview. |
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