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Toxic
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject:

Not really. I have a unique posting style. It's not to simply create drama and piss people off. It's to reach a particular end in debate.

capitalist
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:26 am Post subject:

exton wrote:

That's not necessarily the best way to look at things, in terms running a productive and non-divided society, but it helps to try to understand why people might see things that way.

The reason people "might see things that way" is racism. A person who believes the whole "don't trust whitey thing" is nothing more than a racist.

capitalist
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:28 am Post subject:

joeyjock wrote:

Jeremiah Wright isn't running for President
...and neither is Reverend Hagee and all the other right wing nut jobs like Oral Roberts who spewed even worst crap

... but funny
we're not hearing about them
ain't that strange

OBAMA SAT IN THE PEWS OF WRIGHT'S CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS!!

That doesn't bother you? Obama never stood out against him for 20 years until now. That doesn't bother you?

joeyjock
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:38 am Post subject:

Nope....

I sat in pews of my church and listened to crap too
and Hillary sat in pews and listened to things that she could have stood up to
and John McSame sat in pews and listened to things that he should have stood up to also
This is America...
Everytime you hear something you don't agree with you don't have to call a press conference

Anym
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject:

[quote="capitalist"]
OBAMA SAT IN THE PEWS OF WRIGHT'S CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS!!

That doesn't bother you? Obama never stood out against him for 20 years until now. That doesn't bother you?[/quote

Do you know whether or not Obama in private with his pastor in those 20 years had gone to his pastor and had disagreements with him?

Or would you rather whenever somebody disagrees with their pastor walk up on stage and beat the man with a stick?

capitalist
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:

Anym wrote:

Do you know whether or not Obama in private with his pastor in those 20 years had gone to his pastor and had disagreements with him?

Or would you rather whenever somebody disagrees with their pastor walk up on stage and beat the man with a stick?

If my pastor was saying things like "DON'T TRUST THE BLACK MAN" or "GODDAMN AMERICA", I would stop going to that church!!

Obama chose to sit in the pews and listen to this crap every weekend for 20 years. Stop apologizing for him.

Anym
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject:

[quote="capitalist"]

If my pastor was saying things like "DON'T TRUST THE BLACK MAN" or "GODDAMN AMERICA", I would stop going to that church!!

Obama chose to sit in the pews and listen to this crap every weekend for 20 years. Stop apologizing for him.[/quote

Once again how do you know he's hasn't disagreed privately.

Anym
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

Sean Hannity is good friends with white power man Hal Turner is Sean a racist?

Toxic
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:54 am Post subject:

Quote:

Obama chose to sit in the pews and listen to this crap every weekend for 20 years.

He didn't say that crap every weekend for 20 years. They were incidents and, compared to the number of sermons the man gave, they were very, very rare.

capitalist
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:00 am Post subject:

Toxic wrote:

He didn't say that crap every weekend for 20 years. They were incidents and, compared to the number of sermons the man gave, they were very, very rare.

How do you know? Did you attend the church?

I see such vicious, racist hate in his words and I refuse to believe that they are nothing more than isolated incidents.

Toxic
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:45 am Post subject:

Quote:

How do you know? Did you attend the church?

I could ask you the same thing. You're assuming that he did for political points without any evidence that it was anything more than a few incidents. A lack of evidence is a problem for those making the accusations, not vice-versa.

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject:

Its time to say that there is NO place for the Church in American politics
That is one of the Foundations that our country had been begun with and that is what we should be looking at in the future
Religion has absolutely no place in government
It divides rather than unites...
and the comingling of the two only diminishes both

If you think that there are not equally or even more heinous coming from the right you are absolutely fooling yourself

capitalist
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:40 am Post subject:

joeyjock wrote:

If you think that there are not equally or even more heinous coming from the right you are absolutely fooling yourself

You're assuming that I am from the religious right just because I am an advocate of freedom and liberty?

What an example of an ignorant generalization.

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject:

capitalist wrote:

Anym wrote:

No your church just says "dont trust homosexuals!" and "dont trust Muslims!"

Right, completely different.

Capitalist, have you ever been called or been discriminated against in your life?