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thatoneguy1000
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: ideas on why god is impracticle

Spartacus
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: Re: ideas on why god is impracticle

thatoneguy1000 wrote:

I don't consider myself "religious" but I am spiritual. I believe in God in some form and can only hope that he has a sense of humor otherwise we're all screwed.

Atheism makes no sense to me. A couple of rocks collide and you have a world like this that's full of organization and purpose? Not buying it. Far as "where god comes from" no matter what belief you adhere to if you go far enough back through the history of existence you have to come to that "uncaused cause" something that exists simply because it doesn. And to me, that "uncaused cause" has to be a sentient being in order to create this world.

Coolio
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Re: ideas on why god is impracticle

Spartacus wrote:

thatoneguy1000 wrote:

I suppose you can look at it that way, but the way I see it is this way: Imagine you had eternity to make Coca Cola, not knowing at all from the beginning how to make it. Assuming you have all the materials, you have trial and error and eventually, you would be able to replicate Coca Cola. The point I'm trying to get at is, we don't know how many rocks have collided in order for this one big bang to work. Perhaps man worlds have been spawned, but only this one was able to function properly.

Gross Dude
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Re: ideas on why god is impracticle

Spartacus wrote:

thatoneguy1000 wrote:

So you think its not believable that life and order came out of nothing, but when it comes to an all powerful being that can do whatever it wants, you think that's just dandy?

Lords servant
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:59 am Post subject:

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So many religious people would say that the big bang couldn’t have happened because you can’t make something out of nothing. Right?
If that is true, how can they explain god? Where did he come from? How could he make people, the earth, etc., wouldn’t he be making something out of nothing.

Also the idea of heaven is flawed. Say there is a god, and you live your life without sin and you go to heaven. Woo good for you, now what? Do you just hang around for eternity? If you think about it, you are “stuck” forever. No matter how fun, exciting or “good” it feels, it would get boring eventually. Wouldn’t it?

Last (this one is kind of odd but I hope you can follow my point) Religious people, do you believe in magic (making fire, water, summoning, etc)? Probably not. But god made the earth, out of what? He “created” everything right? Kind of sounds like he magically created the earth. Wouldn’t he have to? Without the big bang, there would be nothing to use.

Religious people, I would like to hear your side and feedback on my views.
Thanks

You of little faith, our god has always been around, we cannot understand this concept because you and me are the humans created. i am a mangy sinner but with god i am made clean.
Again you of little faith, in heaven we are so pure because of my savior that will not cease to worship him, do you think that a rat like us deserves to live , NO! but god gives us a second chance to live, our body would be transformed and made holy. DO YOU THINK WE WOULD GET BORED, IN OUR NEW BODIES RID OF ANY HUMAN SIN OR DOWNWARDS EMOTION, NEXT TO GOD THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS SHALL BE!!! AMEN!!! we wouldn't have that emotion. i would not get bored.
You of little faith, do you believe that the earth was made by chance first of all how do you explain that two big rocks that collided. how did they get there, if they were there THEY WOULD BE MADE BY GOD! our god is so powerful that he speaks words and the earth and his creation bow down before him and obey.
Join me in a life of no pain and suffering. lay your trash at his feet. i did. god changes people. right know you have been blinded by satan. take care.

AND ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE SAID, AMEN!

Toxic
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:53 am Post subject:

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do you believe that the earth was made by chance first of all how do you explain that two big rocks that collided. how did they get there, if they were there THEY WOULD BE MADE BY GOD!

You of WAY TOO MUCH faith, who made God?

Many heads shall explode. Heheh.

Portland
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:44 am Post subject:

The closest Idea the bible gives that Toxic is that God begot Jesus. It only says God is outside of time and space. Meaning God is not a part of our existence in time and death. Time for God is eternity if that makes any sense. Therefore, God was, is, and is to come so to speak. Outside of that, I have no real answer.

Now on to the topic of this forum, I do believe in magic but not as you think of it. Watchman Nee wrote a book called the power of the Latent soul. In it, he surmises that when we were in Eden and connect to God fully in spirit we had powers, which allowed us to do as God commanded of us. This was to watch over the world. When we fell to sin, our power line so to speak was frayed. Causing us to connect to him at seemingly random times, however, because we gave into sin Satan plugged himself into the frayed parts so it is best to stay away from those powers so to speak because what could you really be connecting into?

If God created man, you would have to say God created Matter, Energy, and Process. Against I cannot say where God came from. *no idea doesn’t even want to guess I already have enough trouble figuring out my own existence*

Lord's servant
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:10 am Post subject:

God is outside of space and time. We are just humans and we created time measure. But god created time. Imagine yourself as a big guy. then imagine you created a world with men. ever since that world was made the earthly time has passed but since you are superior you aren't measured by time. He doesn't die or get older.

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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject:

Comprehending a designer is unfathomable for the following reasons;

In String theory, mathematically they have come up with a possible 9, 10, or 11 extra dimensions of space, completely independent and new ways to move in space. Current time, we can only fathom 3, width, length, and height. It is a cognitive impossibilty to imagine 7 newly and different ways to move let alone 1.

That is the equivalent of questioning "who created god", or "how did god create the universe".

Infinte Regression is nonsensical and paradoxical in every sense.

Another issue with an "uncaused cause" is information. Information is in itself a completely new entity of undefined origin. Evolution only accounts for "how" a species can "evolve", but not "how" life began.

The most simple cell requires approximantly 250 protiens, which require amino acids and complex molecules. Firstly, no one knows how this process happened, secondly where did the information come from, in order to govern how the complex cell in todays world?

What exactly is information?
Well, in Quantum Mechanics information travels at either an infinte speed, or the two entangled particles are actually connected.

Information doesn't abid to the laws of physics, it in itself is a completely new enitity.

Reality can be defined as;

Space - Time
Matter - Energy

Gravity
Strong Force
Weak Force
Electromagnetic Force

Information, is required for any of these to be functioning. So, what is information?

SCIFIGEEK
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject:

Lord's servant wrote:

yes I am imagining all of this however, the key word here is imagining so just like many other great religious theories they are based in mans imagination and not any kind of evidence.

THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT THE EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE Razz

lol love that logic.

p.s no offence intended to the quoted poster I am just trying to make a point.

Hosono
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: God

All this talk about a suipreme being is kind of boring. So to kill my boredom i'll throw my personal views into the fray.

1. There is a God, it is irrational not to believe in God. (You can google the reasoning if you really want to see it.) To claim that there isn't a God is to claim that you posses infinite knowledge, which of course no one has.
2. God is like yin and yang. In other words he is neither good nor evil, man or woman, he just IS. Just like there can be no love without hate or hate without love. All this BS about God is Love is really really tiring.
3. God is complex not simple. To analyze God is like getting a small vial of ocean water, analyze its make up, then saying that this small vial defines all the oceans in the world.

Toxic
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: Re: God

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1. There is a God, it is irrational not to believe in God. (You can google the reasoning if you really want to see it.) To claim that there isn't a God is to claim that you posses infinite knowledge, which of course no one has.

Is it anymore rational to claim that there is for certain a god than to claim that there isn't for certain a god? Neither are provable.

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2. God is like yin and yang. In other words he is neither good nor evil, man or woman, he just IS. Just like there can be no love without hate or hate without love. All this BS about God is Love is really really tiring.

Isn't god whatever god wants to be? If this second point is true, what makes god complex, per your third point?

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3. God is complex not simple. To analyze God is like getting a small vial of ocean water, analyze its make up, then saying that this small vial defines all the oceans in the world.

I don't think that's a very applicable analogy. God isn't something that we can analyze, so there's no way to say for certain what god is or is not.

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