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exton
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Martin Niemöller
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
exton wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Martin Niemöller


Love this poem.
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jusdeadphunky
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


yea okay...people like you should be executed by real patriots. you should change your LVC name to the dumb mother-fucker.
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Lester
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jusdeadphunky wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


yea okay...people like you should be executed by real patriots. you should change your LVC name to the dumb mother-fucker.


Don't worry, thats pretty much what I see when I read it anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
jusdeadphunky wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


yea okay...people like you should be executed by real patriots. you should change your LVC name to the dumb mother-fucker.


Don't worry, thats pretty much what I see when I read it anyways.


Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jusdeadphunky wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


yea okay...people like you should be executed by real patriots. you should change your LVC name to the dumb mother-fucker.


Haha... Rolling Eyes thanks. Your the one saying that our government is evil and yet you are the one that wants me to be dragged out into the street and shot because I believe different than you. I have been cursed and and threatened before so you don't phase me. Just start following your own agenda man.
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jusdeadphunky
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Patriot wrote:
jusdeadphunky wrote:
Patriot wrote:
Sure. I have nothing to hide, so go ahead.


yea okay...people like you should be executed by real patriots. you should change your LVC name to the dumb mother-fucker.


Haha... Rolling Eyes thanks. Your the one saying that our government is evil and yet you are the one that wants me to be dragged out into the street and shot because I believe different than you. I have been cursed and and threatened before so you don't phase me. Just start following your own agenda man.


you are not being cursed nor threatened. a true patriot treats their county like they would a best friend. when your best friend is not acting in a just manner and when your best friend is doing things that seem good in the present but will prove to be detrimental in the near future, you do not keep your mouth shut and you do whatever you can to help them see the errors in their ways. that is a patriot. a patriot is not someone who will follow their government blindly into an devastation. a patriot is not someone who goes out and tries to justify injustice and make excuses for it. that is not patriotism. you sir are no patriot. there would be no good ole' u. s. of a. if our forefathers were ignorant cowards like yourself. don't ignore the roots that created this country you claim to love. ignorance is bliss, but it comes with a price tag.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jusdeadphunky wrote:
you are not being cursed nor threatened. a true patriot treats their county like they would a best friend. when your best friend is not acting in a just manner and when your best friend is doing things that seem good in the present but will prove to be detrimental in the near future, you do not keep your mouth shut and you do whatever you can to help them see the errors in their ways. that is a patriot. a patriot is not someone who will follow their government blindly into an devastation. a patriot is not someone who goes out and tries to justify injustice and make excuses for it. that is not patriotism. you sir are no patriot. there would be no good ole' u. s. of a. if our forefathers were ignorant cowards like yourself. don't ignore the roots that created this country you claim to love. ignorance is bliss, but it comes with a price tag.

A patriot loves, honors, and defends his country against all enemies, domestic and abroad.
And our forefathers were not patriots, they were rebels - get it right. Their country was England, and they owed their loyalty to the king. But they rebelled and founded their own country.. to which they were loyal. If you want to call our forefathers patriots, do so in reference to their love for America, not its founding.

A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -Edward Abbey

What pity is it That we can die, but once to serve our country. -Joseph Addison

It is the patriotic duty of every man to lie for his country. -Alfred Adler

Love of country is like love of woman -- he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good. -Felix Adler

Yippies, Hippies, Yahoos, Black Panthers, lions and tigers alike -- I would swap the whole damn zoo for the kind of young Americans I saw in Vietnam. -Spiro T. Agnew

True patriots we; for be it understood we left our country for our country's good. -George Barrington

Patriotism. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. -Ambrose Bierce
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exton
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
CustomFordGirl wrote:

And our forefathers were not patriots, they were rebels - get it right. Their country was England, and they owed their loyalty to the king.


Government officials do not inherently deserve loyalty - there's a huge difference between being loyal to your country and being loyal to its officials. Monarchs, especially, deserve little loyalty.

And their country was england only according to england.

What "their country" actually was is entirely dependent upon their own mindset, and it's quite clear what that was.

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Patriotism. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. -Ambrose Bierce


I love ambrose bierce. I'm kind of surprised that you like him.
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Lester
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am also an Ambrose Bierce fan, but I think Paradise lost showed a much better side of the devil than the dictionary ever did.

Lucifer the vertigo comics series also rocks the casbah.
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