Lester Forum Elder

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| that would require the scientist to have approached the other big Pharm company. |
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jusdeadphunky Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| exton wrote: | | It only works that way in the movies. In real life, big pharm doesn't assassinate people. |
hahaha any corporation would assasinate anyone who is putting them at risk of loosing billions |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Because a life is worth less than billions of dollars, even if it did go to court. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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That's not what i mean.
I mean, what makes them different from other humans?
I can think of plenty of instances in which it would benefit me personally to kill someone else, and i could do it such that i'd never be caught.
But i don't. The vast majority of the people in the united states don't.
And yes - if it did go to court, it wouldn't be worth it. Spending the rest of your live in jail kind of defeats the whole point of making billions of dollars. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: |
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pffft, have you ever seen anti-trust? they can only send you to jail if they prove it was your idea to kill him and the order isn't messed up in the corporate beauracracy.
and what makes corporations different from individuals is the same thing that makes countries different from individuals, shared responsibility, people just don't feel bad about it, they section off the guil until each person just has a teeny little amount, so it don't matter. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| A corporation is not a hive - it is composed of individuals. Althought you *can* characterize the behavior of the group as a whole, the group is not the level on which decision making trully occurs. It happens on the individual level. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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For decisions they form committees, do you think we declared the war on terror on the whim of one man? Or that illegal wiretapping was a single persons decision? It's the same thing, and when individuals do make decisions, they can lie to themselves and say that it was the company that made them do it.
I'm not saying the the guilt doesn't lie solely on the shoulders of a few people, i'm just saying that people are very good at convincing themselves otherwise. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Of course people CAN lie to themselves. Most people do; you don't need a context or an excuse to be patently delusional. You certainly don't need a group to blame.
Do you have any verifiable examples of giant corporate conspiracies at all? |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Ummm, do I even need to mention Microsoft?
But I would imagine corporations would be much better at hiding conspiracies than governments, I'm sure if you search around you'll find some. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | Ummm, do I even need to mention Microsoft? |
When was the last time microsoft had someone killed?
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But I would imagine corporations would be much better at hiding conspiracies than governments, I'm sure if you search around you'll find some. |
I've never come across one. Ever.
Oh, i've seen crackpot websites about it. The same sorts of websites that you'll see stuff about "chemtrails". Not exactly...reliable information. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| Give me some time and I'll dig something up. and btw, microsoft killing people? How would we ever know? |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | Give me some time and I'll dig something up. and btw, microsoft killing people? How would we ever know? |
They can't shut out other software companies with sneaky lines of code without the entire world finding out. They can't even threaten 17 year old boys and keep it quiet. There's no way in hell that they can assassinate people. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.edn.com/article/CA439528.html
Ten seconds of google searching. ceo + murder.
To offer the standard conspiracy theory line, thats what they want you to think, did the monopoly trial really hurt microsoft in any way? Did it hurt Bill Gates?? What it did do was create a whole bunch of free advertising, just something to think about. |
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jusdeadphunky Forum Elder

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