JesusLopezViejo
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They both want warfare, what are we Americans to do?
Any suggestions? |
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Toxic
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| Lumping Hillary and McCain together by simply stating "they both want warfare" is unfair. I agree that Hillary has voted for resolutions, especially recently, that I'd prefer she not have voted for, but McCain's warmongering is a far cry from anything Hillary has done. But there's not really anything we can do in terms of either candidate other than not vote for them. |
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cornopean
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Hillary and McCain both don't care about our soldiers... |
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| JesusLopezViejo wrote: | They both want warfare, what are we Americans to do?
Any suggestions? |
uhhh....if we don't fight evil.....then how are we going to survive?
I wonder what would have happened to the free world if you folks were in power in 1933?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machtergreifung |
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Toxic
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Exactly what happened anyway. We'd stay out of the war until we were attacked.
No one's arguing that we can't fight terrorism or defend ourselves. What we do argue against is the idea of throwing bodies (that's soldiers to most of us) at a place until we see results—results which aren't even defined, at that. |
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Anym
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Hillary and McCain both don't care about our soldiers... |
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| cornopean wrote: | | JesusLopezViejo wrote: | They both want warfare, what are we Americans to do?
Any suggestions? |
uhhh....if we don't fight evil.....then how are we going to survive?
I wonder what would have happened to the free world if you folks were in power in 1933?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machtergreifung |
They were. FDR ring a bell.
Remember republicans don't win wars they leave for other people to clean up. |
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joeyjock
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I know Hillary is no Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel but lumping her in with someone who's gonna shoot first and ask questions later is a bit unfair
I don't think she'd be foolish enough to escalate this mess
and I don't think she'll let it go on much longer |
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cornopean
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Hillary and McCain both don't care about our soldiers... |
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| Anym wrote: | FDR ring a bell.
Remember republicans don't win wars they leave for other people to clean up. |
FDR's foreign policy and contemporary liberalism's foreign policy have absolutely NOTHING in common. |
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cornopean
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| Toxic wrote: | | Exactly what happened anyway. We'd stay out of the war until we were attacked. |
but Hitler had not attacked France. Yet if France had done a preemptive attack, WW2 might have been VASTLY different. but libs think preemption is war mongering. |
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fellfire
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| cornopean wrote: | | Toxic wrote: | | Exactly what happened anyway. We'd stay out of the war until we were attacked. |
but Hitler had not attacked France. Yet if France had done a preemptive attack, WW2 might have been VASTLY different. but libs think preemption is war mongering. |
Corny, if France had done a preemptive attack on Germany, it would have been the conservatives that would have condemned France's actions and called for an immediate cease-fire. Remember, they were the peace-party. The cons would have then been pushing for reparations for Germany over such platent aggresiveness on France's part thus isolating France from the international community. Sure, a few small nations (French colonies) would have stood by France, but the world would be against them. It would have been vastly different from the first war with Germany.
Hmmm ... why does that sound familar? |
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Turk
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Hillary and McCain both don't care about our soldiers... |
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| JesusLopezViejo wrote: | They both want warfare, what are we Americans to do?
Any suggestions? |
Ron Paul
And rid ourselves of the military industrial complex |
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Anym
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| cornopean wrote: | | Anym wrote: | FDR ring a bell.
Remember republicans don't win wars they leave for other people to clean up. |
FDR's foreign policy and contemporary liberalism's foreign policy have absolutely NOTHING in common. |
Really Last time I checked Bill Clinton tried to go to war several time in the 90's to help people and the isolationist GOP congress blocked him.
Also Hill and Obama have both supported more military measure her Iran and him Pakistan I think your head is up your ass corno on this one.
| cornopean wrote: | | Toxic wrote: | | Exactly what happened anyway. We'd stay out of the war until we were attacked. |
but Hitler had not attacked France. Yet if France had done a preemptive attack, WW2 might have been VASTLY different. but libs think preemption is war mongering. |
Yet Adolf Hitler claimed that by preemptively attacking Poland and France he was protecting Germany.
Crazy bs begets Crazy bs.
Hey Corno where's Iraqs WMDs  |
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