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Makeroni
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Evolution Reply with quote
The survival of the individual is supported/improved by evolution gradually. That goes for many species, afaik. The survival of the group is of course supported/improved by evolution.

Animals have a certain look and sound so their parents know when and how to care about them etc. Same for humans.

Now, is it not safe to say that, for humans as well as animals (with exceptions), the group wants the individual to be well?

To add some spice: Humans which feel good are more beautiful than those in distress.

If we assume that the process of evolution will advance all of this more and more? Does this not mean that the "positive energy" (feelgood) that outside observers "receive" when looking at an individual that is well gets stronger, that the effect that we mutually want each other to be well and the visual (etc.) feedback we receive from indidivuals being well gets stronger?

Does this not mean that evolution creates love? Love that gets stronger, purer, more sophisticated?

There are many assumptions in this and many what-ifs are ignored, but I think that the depicted scenario is realistic.

And if this were so - would that not mean that evolution will "inevitably" lead us to Heaven? (This is not supposed to be a statement regarding a god or religion, "Heaven" is supposed to be a metaphor.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evolution is basically Survivalof the fittest
The animal who can pass on it's genetic material will be successful and the slow or rapid genetic shift that occurs over time is what is termed Evolution
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a neat point, Makeroni. Evolution is basically whatever. Humans have the opportunity to guide it, and four other processes can change us from what we are now into biological nirvana. Since this is the Evolution vs. Creationism forum, I must say that Evolution is an extremely important theory. It doesn't matter if people believe in it or not, science is not a popularity contest. Human beings can ignore it or seek to understand it.

It is entirely possible for love to have evolved. It is also possible, but more complicated for a god to have created, inserted, or taught love to humans. If the god doesn't mind, we can alter our biology in either case to make happy and peaceful human-descendants. It is unlikely that humans will evolve into stronger or smarter organisms on their own; so many mean, dumb, or weak people (nothing inherently against 'em) survive to reproduce that no special trend is leading the evolution of humankind. We are, in fact, getting more average or dumber. Though beauty is selected for often enough, perhaps, one doesn't need to have "positive energy" to look good anymore (just money, make-up, pills, and surgery).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: on the topic of evolution Reply with quote
I see evolution stopping for us, since those who you have put as weaker, are surviving due to technology, it might sound crazy and or bad, but for the sake of standing by the side of the evolutionist, many congenital illnesses and or other handicaps (mental, physical, emotional, etc...
) would be nonexistent, or we would most likely be a different species, for us we are now surviving through medicine (to a point that it may be unhealthy.
what is religion in my eyes...religion: an easy way to contemplation (eternal love, Happiness, and ability to see ones passed away friends and family, a promise of a perfect world, and some form of law and divine justice, a way to scare people into thinking that they will be punished, even sometimes for the pettiest of things), and for the explanation to everything as it is...


Religion: answers without question, Evolution: questions without answers...

What does that leave Revolution to be, interpret that...












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