Anym
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: Does the goverment support the troops? |
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Jack Murtha is proposing a bill that does not allow troops into combat till they are fully trained and armored, also that the troops have a years rest before heading back to combat, And he's getting attacked for it. What! When is wanting the troops have a proper armor and rest a bad idea. When the pubs appose it.
Secondly this is just disgusting :(from MSNBC)
DANA PRIEST, “THE WASHINGTON POST”: Tucked away in a northwest Washington neighborhood is a former hotel the Army simply calls Building 18. It‘s an unlikely place to house injured soldiers in the nation‘s capital, but the respected Walter Reid Army Medical Center, just across the street, is overflowing with the wounded from five years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
So for some of the 700 out patients, Building 18 is now home. Walter Reid clinical social worker Joe Wilson.
JOE WILSON, WALTER REID SOCIAL WORKER: They had to do a quick renovation, which was very quick and very cursory. It didn‘t necessarily address all of the issues that you would want to address if you were building a barracks.
PRIEST: Many soldiers living here are being treated for brain injuries and psychological stress. They‘ve been promised the best the nation can provide.
BUSH: We owe them all we can give them.
PRIEST: But, as a “Washington Post” investigation found, conditions here are far from ideal, mold and pealing wallpaper, shower rot, mice and cockroaches. Walter Reid staff members and out patients told the Post that the conditions here at Building 18 are symptomatic of a system overwhelmed by more injured soldiers than the Pentagon expected.
Small matters can become huge obstacles to injured servicemen trying to recover. Marine Sergeant Ryan Groves lost a leg when a rocket propelled grenade exploded near him in Fallujah.
SERGEANT RYAN GROVES, U.S. MARINE CORPS: You know, we‘re missing legs, arms, brain injuries.
PRIEST: For Groves and others, reporting to a supervisor meant an awkward trek around three buildings. He says there‘s a ramp that would shorten the trip, but it‘s too steep. Filling a prescription requires an even longer trip. Psychiatric treatment is clear across post. And at the end of the day, a long trip home uphill.
But his larger complaint is that his military supervisors didn‘t treat him like a patient.
GROVES: They made me feel, on a regular basis, like I was being a lazy, weak, poor excuse for a Marine.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Soldiers can feel disenfranchises from the system. They begin to resent the system. They will withdraw and they will not seek out services.
PRIEST: No one is complaining about the quality of medical care at Walter Reid, most say it‘s top notch. But 65 percent of the troops polled by the hospital last March said their experience as out patients had been stressful. As for Building 18, Army officials told us they started an aggressive campaign to deal with the mice infestation last October, and it‘s now at a manageable level.
They also say they will review all outstanding work orders in the next 30 days. And they have added more social workers, case managers and platoon sergeants to better address the needs of out patients. But for soldiers and Marines, trying hard to recover, it‘s another battlefield here at home.
Dan Priest, for NBC News, Washington.
In short the administration is sending our troops to rat infested, rotted worn down hotels to recover in and it's in Washington D.C. I bet W wouldn't walk down there for a photo op. but all in all
My question is who really supporting the troops here? |
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jusdeadphunky
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| it is clear that the government and the assholes who think we should stay in iraq for the next 4 decades so we can "win" are not supporting the troops. the shit is so fucked up it is out of control. soldiers suffering from DU poisoning are being discharged and denied medical treatment for their suffering, soldiers are going bankrupt paying for medical bills due to injuries received in iraq, soldiers are loosing their houses because they can not make the payments while in iraq, they are being thrown into combat and i know a few who have been forced to devote the past four years to combat while being allowed back in the country for less than a year combined. |
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Lester
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| I hate the troops. |
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joeyjock
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I'm sick and tired of everybody throwing out...You don't support the troops...You don't support the troops..."
It takes a little more than flag waving to support these men
.... like giving them the right body armor and armor for their vehicles... Right Mr "you go with the army you have" Rumsfeld?
...and then cutting Veteran's funding during a time of war???? Mr Bush?
No programs for these men when they come home???
Walter Reed...the supposed jewel in the crown of the post battle care for veterans in shambles???
You got to be kidding me...
the next time you wanna yell ...you don't support the troops...send a letter to the White House first..it'll do ya much better |
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Lester
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| When will people learn, you start a war, someones gonna get hurt. |
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Anym
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | When will people learn, you start a war, someones gonna get hurt. |
You always hurt the ones you love. |
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Turk
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| No they have been undermining the troops by skimming off all of the money and equipment that they need in the front lines of irack |
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Lester
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| Anym wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | When will people learn, you start a war, someones gonna get hurt. |
You always hurt the ones you love. |
Oh good, so it's not a bad thing to beat your wife, I was worried. |
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truthmarch
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| Quote: | | Jack Murtha is proposing a bill that does not allow troops into combat till they are fully trained |
 Gee. What a neat concept. Don't send in people to kill others if those people haven't been trained in how to stay alive. Does anyone here agree that the US army is one of the best devices created to kill young Americans? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | I hate the troops. |
Then go to Canada! lol I love saying that |
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Lester
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Nesta13Maldini wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | I hate the troops. |
Then go to Canada! lol I love saying that |
I'm in Australia, but I've been to Canada, and both of those countries also have a military, it's very dissapointing. |
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Nesta13Maldini
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| Lester wrote: | | Nesta13Maldini wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | I hate the troops. |
Then go to Canada! lol I love saying that |
I'm in Australia, but I've been to Canada, and both of those countries also have a military, it's very dissapointing. |
Well then come to America then go to Canada you terrorist lover!  |
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Lester
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Nesta13Maldini wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | Nesta13Maldini wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | I hate the troops. |
Then go to Canada! lol I love saying that |
I'm in Australia, but I've been to Canada, and both of those countries also have a military, it's very dissapointing. |
Well then come to America then go to Canada you terrorist lover! |
I never said I loved terrorists! Although I do sympathize with their plight. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | When will people learn, you start a war, someones gonna get hurt. |
But the needless part is what is so mindboggling this time around...
"tens of thousands of soldiers were sent to the front without the life-saving protective jackets.
Parents of some of the troops have resorted to buying the jackets themselves and posting them to Iraq."
The greatest super power in the world, huh?
and we can't even do this for our troops>>>>sad |
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Lester
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| joeyjock wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | When will people learn, you start a war, someones gonna get hurt. |
But the needless part is what is so mindboggling this time around...
"tens of thousands of soldiers were sent to the front without the life-saving protective jackets.
Parents of some of the troops have resorted to buying the jackets themselves and posting them to Iraq."
The greatest super power in the world, huh?
and we can't even do this for our troops>>>>sad |
Republicans say it's cuz they don't have enough money. I say it's cuz they overreacted. |
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