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JLV
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 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: Did your Senator sell out your rights for the Telecoms? |
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Have your Senators voted to give Telecoms Immunity?
If you live in IN, DE, ND, CA, HI, SD, WI, LA, AR, MO, MD, FL, NE, WV, CO, MI or VA, call your senator now, because they have voted for telco immunity.
What does this mean?
These telephone companies ( Verizon, AT&T, etc.. ) broke the law and constitution when aiding the government in eavesdropping on Americans under the guise of "terror".
Now, realizing that they can get into trouble, our President is trying to give them a "get out of jail free" card by giving them immunity...
Think about it America, why would they need immunity if they did nothing wrong?
Why is this a more important issue than the war and the election?
Call your Senators if you live in one of the states mentioned:
IN, DE, ND, CA, HI, SD, WI, LA, AR, MO, MD, FL, NE, WV, CO, MI or VA, call your senator now, because they have voted for telco immunity.
Here is a list of numbers:
Your Senators' phone numbers below. 31 of those on this list voted against immunity, so do your research before dialing.
AKAKA, Daniel K. (D-HI) 1-202-224-6361
ALEXANDER, Lamar (R-TN) 1-202-224-4944
ALLARD, Wayne (R-CO) 1-202-224-5941
BAUCUS, Max (D-MT) 1-202-224-2651
BAYH, Evan (D-IN) 1-202-224-5623
BENNETT, Robert F. (R-UT) 1-202-224-5444
BIDEN, Jr., Joseph R. (D-DE) 1-202-224-5042
BINGAMAN, Jeff (D-NM) 1-202-224-5521
BOND, Christopher S. (R-MO) 1-202-224-5721
BOXER, Barbara (D-CA) 1-202-224-3553
BROWN, Sherrod (D-OH) 1-202-224-2315
BROWNBACK, Sam (R-KS) 1-202-224-6521
BUNNING, Jim (R-KY) 1-202-224-4343
BURR, Richard (R-NC) 1-202-224-3154
BYRD, Robert C. (D-WV) 1-202-224-3954
CANTWELL, Maria (D-WA) 1-202-224-3441
CARDIN, Benjamin L. (D-MD) 1-202-224-4524
CARPER, Thomas R. (D-DE) 1-202-224-2441
CASEY, Jr., Robert P. (D-PA) 1-202-224-6324
CHAMBLISS, Saxby (R-GA) 1-202-224-3521
CLINTON, Hillary Rodham (D-NY) 1-202-224-4451
COBURN, Tom (R-OK) 1-202-224-5754
COCHRAN, Thad (R-MS) 1-202-224-5054
COLEMAN, Norm (R-MN) 1-202-224-5641
COLLINS, Susan M. (R-ME) 1-202-224-2523
CONRAD, Kent (D-ND) 1-202-224-2043
CORKER, Bob (R-TN) 1-202-224-3344
CORNYN, John (R-TX) 1-202-224-2934
CRAIG, Larry E. (R-ID) 1-202-224-2752
CRAPO, Mike (R-ID) 1-202-224-6142
DeMINT, Jim (R-SC) SR-340 1-202-224-6121
DODD, Christopher J. (D-CT) SR-448 1-202-224-2823
DOLE, Elizabeth (R-NC) SD-555 1-202-224-6342
DOMENICI, Pete V. (R-NM) SH-328 1-202-224-6621
DORGAN, Byron L. (D-ND) SH-322 1-202-224-2551
DURBIN, Richard J. (D-IL) SH-309 1-202-224-2152
ENSIGN, John (R-NV) SR-119 1-202-224-6244
ENZI, Michael B. (R-WY) SR-379A 1-202-224-3424
FEINGOLD, Russell D. (D-WI) SH-506 1-202-224-5323
FEINSTEIN, Dianne (D-CA) SH-331 1-202-224-3841
GRAHAM, Lindsey (R-SC) SR-290 1-202-224-5972
GRASSLEY, Chuck (R-IA) SH-135 1-202-224-3744
GREGG, Judd (R-NH) SR-393 1-202-224-3324
HAGEL, Chuck (R-NE) SR-248 1-202-224-4224
HARKIN, Tom (D-IA) SH-731 1-202-224-3254
HATCH, Orrin G. (R-UT) SH-104 1-202-224-5251
HUTCHISON, Kay Bailey (R-TX) SR-284 1-202-224-5922
INHOFE, James M. (R-OK) SR-453 1-202-224-4721
INOUYE, Daniel K. (D-HI) SH-722 1-202-224-3934
ISAKSON, Johnny (R-GA) SR-120 1-202-224-3643
JOHNSON, Tim (D-SD) SH-136 1-202-224-5842
KENNEDY, Edward M. (D-MA) SR-317 1-202-224-4543
KERRY, John F. (D-MA) SR-304 1-202-224-2742
KLOBUCHAR, Amy (D-MN) SH-302 1-202-224-3244
KOHL, Herb (D-WI) SH-330 1-202-224-5653
KYL, Jon (R-AZ) SH-730 1-202-224-4521
LANDRIEU, Mary L. (D-LA) SH-724 1-202-224-5824
LAUTENBERG, Frank R. (D-NJ) SH-324 1-202-224-3224
LEAHY, Patrick J. (D-VT) SR-433 1-202-224-4242
LEVIN, Carl (D-MI) SR-269 1-202-224-6221
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I. (I-CT) SH-706 1-202-224-4041
LINCOLN, Blanche L. (D-AR) SD-355 1-202-224-4843
LOTT, Trent (R-MS) SR-487 1-202-224-6253
LUGAR, Richard G. (R-IN) SH-306 1-202-224-4814
MARTINEZ, Mel (R-FL) SR-356 1-202-224-3041
McCAIN, John (R-AZ) SR-241 1-202-224-2235
McCASKILL, Claire (D-MO) SH-717 1-202-224-6154
McCONNELL, Mitch (R-KY) SR-361A 1-202-224-2541
MENENDEZ, Robert (D-NJ) SH-317 1-202-224-4744
MIKULSKI, Barbara A. (D-MD) SH-503 1-202-224-4654
MURKOWSKI, Lisa (R-AK) SH-709 1-202-224-6665
MURRAY, Patty (D-WA) SR-173 1-202-224-2621
NELSON, Bill (D-FL) SH-716 1-202-224-5274
NELSON, E. Benjamin (D-NE) SH-720 1-202-224-6551
OBAMA, Barack (D-IL) SH-713 1-202-224-2854
PRYOR, Mark L. (D-AR) SD-257 1-202-224-2353
REED, Jack (D-RI) SH-728 1-202-224-4642
REID, Harry (D-NV) SH-528 1-202-224-3542
ROBERTS, Pat (R-KS) SH-109 1-202-224-4774
ROCKEFELLER IV, John D. (D-WV) SH-531 1-202-224-6472
SALAZAR, Ken (D-CO) SH-702 1-202-224-5852
SANDERS, Bernard (I-VT) SD-332 1-202-224-5141
SCHUMER, Charles E. (D-NY) SH-313 1-202-224-6542
SESSIONS, Jeff (R-AL) SR-335 1-202-224-4124
SHELBY, Richard C. (R-AL) SH-110 1-202-224-5744
SMITH, Gordon H. (R-OR) SR-404 1-202-224-3753
SNOWE, Olympia J. (R-ME) SR-154 1-202-224-5344
SPECTER, Arlen (R-PA) SH-711 1-202-224-4254
STABENOW, Debbie (D-MI) SH-133 1-202-224-4822
STEVENS, Ted (R-AK) SH-522 1-202-224-3004
SUNUNU, John E. (R-NH) SR-111 1-202-224-2841
TESTER, Jon (D-MT) SR-204 1-202-224-2644
THOMAS, Craig (R-WY) SD-307 1-202-224-6441
THUNE, John (R-SD) SR-493 1-202-224-2321
VITTER, David (R-LA) SH-516 1-202-224-4623
VOINOVICH, George V. (R-OH) SH-524 1-202-224-3353
WARNER, John (R-VA) SR-225 1-202-224-2023
WEBB, Jim (D-VA) SR-144 1-202-224-4024
WHITEHOUSE, Sheldon (D-RI) SH-502 1-202-224-2921
WYDEN, Ron (D-OR) SD-230 1-202-224-5244
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Anym
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Turk
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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it will fall on deaf ears
they all need to be voted out on their next term |
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Turk
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....index.html
Section 222 of the Communications Act of 1934 provides that "[e]very telecommunications carrier has a duty to protect the confidentiality of proprietary information of . . . customers." 18 U.S.C. 2511 makes warrantless eavesdropping a felony; 18 U.S.C. 2702 requires that any "entity providing an electronic communication service to the public shall not knowingly divulge to any person or entity the contents of a communication" without a court order; 47 U.S.C. 605 states that "no person receiving, assisting in receiving, transmitting, or assisting in transmitting, any interstate or foreign communication by wire or radio shall divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning thereof, except through authorized channels of transmission or reception"; and 18 U.S.C. 2520 provides for civil damages for any violations.
Like all statutes, those are all laws democratically enacted by the American people through their Congress and signed into law by the President. They were enacted precisely in order to make it illegal for telecoms to allow government spying on our calls and written communications without court orders -- precisely because Americans discovered that telecoms had previously allowed unfettered government spying on our communications and wanted to make it illegal for them to do so ever again. Those are exactly the laws the telecoms broke, in exactly the way that the American people wanted to prohibit.
A very good article on this matter JLV
They want immunites for telecomms
because they knowingly broke the law
and divulging information to the government is a felony |
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chevydriver1123
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| Schumer actually did something good and voted against this crap. Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
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JLV
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe Hillary didn't have "the balls" to vote. No pun intended.
I hope people can see the shadiness behind this move. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| chevydriver1123 wrote: | | Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
Fuck the free market. Anyone that believes in not being spied on without warrants, and/or the rule of law, should be outraged. |
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Turk
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| exton wrote: | | chevydriver1123 wrote: | | Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
Fuck the free market. Anyone that believes in not being spied on without warrants, and/or the rule of law, should be outraged. |
stfu exton
you dont beleive in the constitution
i dont want to hear you bitch about civil liberties |
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Turk
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Toxic
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Turk wrote: | | exton wrote: | | chevydriver1123 wrote: | | Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
Fuck the free market. Anyone that believes in not being spied on without warrants, and/or the rule of law, should be outraged. |
stfu exton
you dont beleive in the constitution
i dont want to hear you bitch about civil liberties |
That's some bullshit right there mate. It's the liberals in this country that established the civil liberties in the 60's, not you whiny-ass libertarians. When your movement actually contributes to something useful, you can run your mouth. |
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Turk
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| Toxic wrote: | | Turk wrote: | | exton wrote: | | chevydriver1123 wrote: | | Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
Fuck the free market. Anyone that believes in not being spied on without warrants, and/or the rule of law, should be outraged. |
stfu exton
you dont beleive in the constitution
i dont want to hear you bitch about civil liberties |
That's some bullshit right there mate. It's the liberals in this country that established the civil liberties in the 60's, not you whiny-ass libertarians. When your movement actually contributes to something useful, you can run your mouth. |
check your facts lynx |
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Toxic
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Turk wrote: | | Toxic wrote: | | Turk wrote: | | exton wrote: | | chevydriver1123 wrote: | | Anyone that believes in Free Market should be outraged by this. |
Fuck the free market. Anyone that believes in not being spied on without warrants, and/or the rule of law, should be outraged. |
stfu exton
you dont beleive in the constitution
i dont want to hear you bitch about civil liberties |
That's some bullshit right there mate. It's the liberals in this country that established the civil liberties in the 60's, not you whiny-ass libertarians. When your movement actually contributes to something useful, you can run your mouth. |
check your facts lynx |
Don't start this bullshit again. If you disagree with the point I'm making, provide the information to prove me wrong. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. I'm not going through this little "you're wrong but I don't have to display that you are" thing again. |
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Turk
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Youre asking me to source something?
You are the one that made the bogus claim.
The burden of proof is on you.
Keep making bogus claims |
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Toxic
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not a bogus claim. All of the major groups in the civil rights movement were leftist groups. The hippies, the black panthers, the liberal Democrats who overruled and ousted the Dixiecrats and then passed the Civil Rights Act. It's common knowledge; I don't know what you want me to cite. |
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Turk
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| yeah the kkk was founded by leftists |
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