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Vinces
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 Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: you must have know I would say ...... |
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If your a evolutionist carbon dating supports your theory of the earths age.
If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results. Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate. There is alot of scientific evidence to support this. Even the frozen water at the poles is evidence of the global flood of genesis. The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze.
But I am assuming you do not believe the Genesis flood story? |
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Toxic
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: you must have know I would say ...... |
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| Quote: | | If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results. |
How so?
| Quote: | | Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? |
I'm sure that's absolutely true. /sarcasm
| Quote: | | There is alot of scientific evidence to support this. |
I'd like to see just a sliver of it.
| Quote: | | The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze. |
It doesn't work that way due to gravity. Boats that float in the ocean for a very long time don't drift towards the poles, and neither do continents that have been around for quite a very long time.
| Quote: | | But I am assuming you do not believe the Genesis flood story? |
I don't believe it like I don't believe any other religion's Great Flood story, of which there are lots of them. I especially don't believe the Christian one because they load it up with the bogus idea of putting two of each on an ark. |
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exton
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Re: you must have know I would say ...... |
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| Vinces wrote: | | If your a evolutionist carbon dating supports your theory of the earths age. |
No, it doesn't. Carbon dating is only accurate to about 60,000 years.
Other kinds of radiometric dating are used to determine the age of the earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....techniques
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If your a creationist it actually supports the Bible because the flood of Genesis and the climate and atmosphere before and after as described in the Bible would definately skew the results. |
If you're going to throw around the flood, then there's no point in discussing evidence at all; a global flood, of the sort described in the bible, is purely a miraculous event. It has no basis in sensible, physical reality.
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Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate. |
Same deal again. You can make up anything you want, but when you start doing that, the idea of basing your beliefs on "evidence" becomes irrelevent.
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There is alot of scientific evidence to support this. |
There isn't a single iota of physical evidence that supports that.
If you disagree, i'd like you to describe this evidence.
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Even the frozen water at the poles is evidence of the global flood of genesis. The spinning of the Earth gradually caused the flood to move towards the poles where it began to freeze. |
No, that doesn't make any sense at all. The distribution of water on the planet's surface has to do with the geography of the surface, not the planet's spin. The force due to spinning is very small relative to the force due to gravity.
And even then, the force due to spinning would cause things to move towards the equator, not the poles. But, like i said, that doesn't matter; that force is very small relative to the force due to gravity. |
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imnotbncre8ive
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| Quote: | | Did you know that the Bible says that until just before the flood it did not rain? There was a mist that rose from the ground. Some Christians believe that the globe was created with a layer of ice between the atmosphere and space that created a green house effect and made the whole world a temperate climate. |
Did you know that Ron Hubbard told Scientologists that Xenu, dictator of the Galactic Confederacy 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft eerily similar to DC-8 airliners. He then stacked them around volcanoes and detonated thermonuclear bombs. Why? Because his mother had butterfingers and dropped him a lot. He often complained of being harassed in online games like Counterstrike, and nobody wanted him on their chess teams.
There is even more scientific evidence to support this. We at least know exactly who wrote about this stuff: L. Ron Hubbard. I hope you see the light and undertake the journey to become an Operating Thetan.[/quote] |
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imnotbncre8ive
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sbgirly
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: dumb down America |
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| This forum is a good example of the dumbing down of America. Sarah Palin is the Dumb-Down movement's anointed one. The rest of the sophisticated world is laughing at us all . They have good reason. It is a testament to Evolution that we are De-volving in America. The more religious we get, the dumber we get as a whole. We are now the most religious country in the world. Why? What happened? Why are we going backwards? Religious equals violence. Religious equals ignorance. Religious equals oppression. It equals everything that is bad, evil, and ruinous and always has. Go See "Religulous" now. Bill Maher is right. There is a huge percentage of mostly silent non-religious intellect here in this country. We could make a difference. Maybe we could get these people out of our faces if we spoke up. We are rational. We are evolved. We are smart, peaceful and reasonable and we make SENSE. What we don't do is stand up, Stand out, Speak out. And we should. We need to Stop the nuts from trying to run our country and run our world. We need to put a stop to it now. Enough is enough. We need to stop being afraid of insulting someone if we say we don't want "your" god in "our" face anymore. Put God back where "he" belongs. In YOUR church, YOUR house, over YOUR bed, and out of OUR faces, OUR schools, OUR television awards shows and talk shows, OUR rear-view mirrors. Remember when God was an intimate thing in this country? Something to be shared with family, privately, not publicly? God is so overexposed that we are ready to vomit already at the sight of him/her/it. What happened to this country? We are de-volving alright. And this time, there's no where else to go to start over. |
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Sbgirly I think your political rant is in the wrong forum. Please take it to the liberal or conservative corners
I heard a few of you talking about carbon dating well maybe my experience would interest you. When I was in high school, I had the carbon dating chart in front of me. I was sitting in biology class so I decided to play around with it in my TI-84. I always got the proper fraction up until I reached about 6000 years ago. As you may know the 84 divides in decimals not fractions so I had to convert it back to make sure I was on the right track. When I reached that, certain point the decimals jumped from a relatively low number of zeros to the max the TI-84 could handle.
As for the flood, I did a little bit of, curiosity, looking around to see what people said about it. I came across from of the oddest stories one of them included the carbon dating of a piece of wood that was found near the foot of Mount Ararat. It appeared to have been part of some bigger structure, but what was interesting when they tried to carbon date the thing it was older then the carbon dating could handle. What makes this interesting to me was there was a jar of clay they tried to carbon date, which they knew how old it was, but it could not be carbon dated either. Therefore, it makes me wonder if carbon dating is really too flawed to be used as historical proofing. Before you ask, I cannot remember the sources.
Now as the original questions for this topic, as I understand it those levels of earth you are talking about are very easy to create. If I understand you correctly, you are talking about the levels that you see in like the Grand Canyon. I believe the term is composite rock. Well the simple answer I can give is relative to the weight of things and the movement of the plates.
I am sorry if I seem newbish in this area with these comments. You all might understand it a deal better then I so please enlighten me about it. |
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