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exton
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: bill: doctors must report pregnant teenagers to police Reply with quote
In florida.(of course)

http://www.naplesnews.com/news.....s_u/?state
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are there even any teenagers in florida? I thought the seniors sucked the life from them.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
this is a great law, because we all know that if a girl is getting pregnant under the age of 16, she must have been raped, and if not she is going to be a bad person and we need her DNA on file to bust her for her future crimes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sometimes jusdeadphunky, you just have this brilliant insight.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The church using it's oldest and most powerful weapon guilt.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lester wrote:
Sometimes jusdeadphunky, you just have this brilliant insight.


thanks...it is so relieving to have found a forum where i don't get attacked for my sarcasm and have to explain it. haha
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is so backwards. These girls are being treated like criminals when they actually would be doing the responsible thing by going to the doctor. All this is going to do is force more girls to have do-it-yourself abortions, give birth and leave their babies in dumpsters or carry their babies to term with no medical care.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some Chick wrote:
This is so backwards. These girls are being treated like criminals when they actually would be doing the responsible thing by going to the doctor. All this is going to do is force more girls to have do-it-yourself abortions, give birth and leave their babies in dumpsters or carry their babies to term with no medical care.


Pretty much.

But it's florida - what else would anyone expect?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some Chick wrote:
This is so backwards. These girls are being treated like criminals when they actually would be doing the responsible thing by going to the doctor. All this is going to do is force more girls to have do-it-yourself abortions, give birth and leave their babies in dumpsters or carry their babies to term with no medical care.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is the age of consent in Florida? I am too lazy to look it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anym wrote:
The church using it's oldest and most powerful weapon guilt.


Well it worked so well for Manson.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think you guys and gals are missing perhaps the most important point here: private citizens are being made into agents of the State.

How far is this from requiring people to turn in their neighbors for 'suspicious activities'? In principle, there is no difference whatsoever.

Implacable and inexorable, the police state advances day by day.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
amoralanimal wrote:
I think you guys and gals are missing perhaps the most important point here: private citizens are being made into agents of the State.


There is no clear-cut division between private persons and the state. We are all part of civilization, and as such, we have responsibilities in it.

The pregnant teenagers thing isn't bad because it requires healthcare workers to notify the state about something - it's bad because it requires healthcare workers to notify the state about something stupid and irrelevent.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
amoralanimal wrote:
I think you guys and gals are missing perhaps the most important point here: private citizens are being made into agents of the State.

How far is this from requiring people to turn in their neighbors for 'suspicious activities'? In principle, there is no difference whatsoever.

Implacable and inexorable, the police state advances day by day.


A police state, as I was informed, is not defined by requiring citizens to report on each other, but rather by finding out everything without this.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I live in Florida and I think this law is ridiculous.

Wouldn't this be kinda violating the 9th amendment anyway? I mean, if abortion is protected under privacy, why can't pregnancy be? I can't remember which case it was, but it had to do with a a state law that required the woman to tell her spouse, so it went to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said that the law was unconstitutional because what if the baby wasn't the spouses baby? It would bring domestic turmoil.


I think the same applies to this, if a girl gets pregnant, that's going to be some major domestic turmoil, especially for hardcore conservative parents.
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