joeyjock Forum Elder

Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 2108 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: A Big "Mwaah" !!! to the Religious Right |
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Mitt Romney did a little tap dance for the religious right yesterday
and got down on bended knee to say ..... Vote for me
Basically promising that it will be more of the same
religion in the White House if he's elected
But I think those bigots in the Baptist Churches and those Mega-churches...you know where they vacuum out your pockets at the door?
They ain't gonna vote for no heathen, right?
He's got the mark of the devil on him, don't he? |
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chevydriver1123 Veteran

Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 969 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesnt matter these kooks seem to be buzzing around Huckabee now. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 2021 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| What gets me is that these people do not see the irony of it. They are "concerned" that some unknowable mormon religious oligarchy will control the president ... but they don't bat and eye at the idea of some unowable evangelical christian oligarchy controlling the president. What is it? Jealousy? |
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Turk Forum Elder

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 3338
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: Re: A Big "Mwaah" !!! to the Religious Right |
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| joeyjock wrote: | Mitt Romney did a little tap dance for the religious right yesterday
and got down on bended knee to say ..... Vote for me
Basically promising that it will be more of the same
religion in the White House if he's elected
But I think those bigots in the Baptist Churches and those Mega-churches...you know where they vacuum out your pockets at the door?
They ain't gonna vote for no heathen, right?
He's got the mark of the devil on him, don't he? | The churches do not vacuum the money out of the people, they donate the money.
They voluntarily donate money.
THey have the choice to not donate the money. |
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Lynx Forum Elder

Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 1182 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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No, they don't "force" you to donate money. They just make let you know you're far likelier to go to hell.  |
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Lester Forum Elder

Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 4650
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Actually as a mormon it would be considered very remiss of Mitt not to donate 10% of his income, if not more, to the church.
Also, it would be much more likely for him to employ other mormons.
It's just a thing. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 2021 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | Actually as a mormon it would be considered very remiss of Mitt not to donate 10% of his income, if not more, to the church. |
Same goes for a catholic ... most protestant denominations as well. Tithing is common in many Judeo-Christian religions.
| Lester wrote: | | Also, it would be much more likely for him to employ other mormons. |
Do you make this statement based on the assumptions that Romney's closest friends/confidantes/advisors are likely mormon? or do you think, as a mormon, he will be more likely to recruit other mormons into his administration? |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| fellfire wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | Actually as a mormon it would be considered very remiss of Mitt not to donate 10% of his income, if not more, to the church. |
Same goes for a catholic ... most protestant denominations as well. Tithing is common in many Judeo-Christian religions. |
Yes but...it's not quite the same with mormons. They take it quite seriously. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| I admit that I am not very familiar with the intricacies of the Mormon Faith. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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1. Exton covered.
2. As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | 2. As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
Maybe you know more mormons, but this statement sounds like a specific charge at Romney based on a global generalization of mormons. That makes me skeptical ... it's like saying that Kennedy hired more catholics into his administration because he was catholic ... or that Obama would hire more blacks because he is black.
They all sound highly skeptical conclusions based on an over-generalized premise. |
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exton Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
With romney, that's not really the case.
He was governor of my state, and no such thing happened. |
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Turk Forum Elder

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| exton wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
With romney, that's not really the case.
He was governor of my state, and no such thing happened. | He may have made Mass worse than it was. |
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Lester Forum Elder

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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| exton wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
With romney, that's not really the case.
He was governor of my state, and no such thing happened. |
Maybe the rest of the mormons there realise politics is evil
I'm not saying that he would hire someone incompetent just because they were mormon, but if there was a government contract that wcould just as easily fall to one company as another and one of the companies CEO's was a mormon, that would be the way he would go, it's just a community thing, they help each other up the ladder. |
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fellfire Forum Elder

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 2021 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Lester wrote: | | exton wrote: | | Lester wrote: | | As a mormon, he is more likely to recruit other mormons, business and the religious community is tied quite fast together. |
With romney, that's not really the case.
He was governor of my state, and no such thing happened. |
Maybe the rest of the mormons there realise politics is evil
I'm not saying that he would hire someone incompetent just because they were mormon, but if there was a government contract that wcould just as easily fall to one company as another and one of the companies CEO's was a mormon, that would be the way he would go, it's just a community thing, they help each other up the ladder. |
Huh? Ummm, Lester, the president doesn't hand out government contracts. Despite what you might have thought, it wasn't Bush that gave Haliburton the lucrative contracts, it was the connections Cheney has in Congress and other branches of the government.
The president doesn't send a memo to the GAO telling them they want Company X rather the Company Y for a sole source contract. What Mitt could do is introduce Corporate CEO Joe Mormon to General Biff Biffson and gine Joe a "wink and a nod" endorsement. But that is nothing special to Mitt then to any sitting president.
Ultimately, your assertion is incorrect. |
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